RC: What is the official name of the book?
Jim: 5/3/1 for Football: The Physical Development of a Hostile Team
RC: I see you keep getting lots of questions about when it’s due out. Do you have a final date?
Jim: The e-book just went up for sale today on the Web site. You can get it here. The book will be for sale in about two weeks.
RC: Why did you decide to write it?
Angry Coach: I went through a lot of incarnations as a high school football coach. I went from not knowing what I was doing and having my guys train like I used to, to having them do straight powerlifting workouts, to overcomplicating everything with my interpretation of “science.” When I implemented 5/3/1, it worked incredibly well, and it just made sense. Jim has a very good football background, and I trusted his ability to get people stronger, so we gave it a shot. I edited the original manual, so I think we may have been the first high school team to even use it. Long story short, we wrote this book because of our ability to collaborate. Working together just really made sense.
Jim: The Angry Coach and I talked about this for a long time. His kids started to use it and it worked. Then we started talking more about the program and our experience as high school and college athletes. Most guys get thrust into the strength coach role because they like it or they’re the youngest guy around. They have to go through a lot of info – what’s real and what’s not. I’m not saying that we are the “be all, end all” – although I’d like to think we are. We’re just two reliable sources I feel like strength coaches can trust.
RC: How long was it in the works?
Jim: About 9 months. But there’s a lot more real world knowledge we already had as coaches and athletes that we used.
Angry Coach: I started using 5/3/1 with our team without telling Jim about it. I didn’t ask him how I could do it. I just installed it first, and it ran itself. This manual needed to be written, and I’ve been thinking about it for well over a year now.
RC: You both played football. Tell me about your experience and would you have wanted a program like this when you were in high school?
Jim: No.
RC: Jim, what are you saying?
Jim: The reason why I said that is because in high school I was already programming my own stuff. I’ve been writing programs since I was 13 or 14 for high school athletes and having a 5/3/1 program would’ve hindered my progress. It’s kind of a catch-22. If this information existed back then, I wouldn’t be the person I was today.
Angry Coach: That’s true. As Jim said at one of the Boston seminars at Murph’s gym, the best thing about how things were when we were coming up was that the internet didn’t exist. We had to go into a weight room and think. I didn’t have a strength coach in high school. All I had was some weights at school and in my basement, and I had to figure out how to turn that equation into a football career.
Jim: I never wanted anyone to just hand me a program. I was too stubborn and still am. If you told me what to do, I’d do the exact opposite anyway.
RC: Without giving away too much information, what should readers expect to find?
Jim: The book basically takes you through off-season and in-season stuff from strength training, conditioning, jumps, throws, warm-ups and speed work, to specific position drills for off-season.
Angry Coach: The book takes a lot of the body of knowledge people may already have, but the program arranges it for them. It tells you what to do, but then explains why you’d do it. There’s also a whole section on how to set up weight rooms, what you need, what you can substitute, and lots of tips and tricks on how to save money. There’s also a specifically ordered warm-up my program has been using for years that takes exactly 20 minutes.
RC: What do you hope individuals do with the information they find in your book? What’s your goal for writing it?
Jim: I’d like it to be implemented as-is and developed, so they have a winning and strong football team. I’d like to see others branch off and make it their own – just not go too crazy with it. I wrote this to inspire people, which is essentially what Dave has done with me. He gave me hints and structure for training information over the years, but then let me run loose with it.
Angry Coach: I feel the same way about pointing people in the right direction, like Jim and some other people have done with me. I’m fortunate enough to work at a school that produces some high-end talent, but other coaches may not, so I’d like them to work this program for a while and learn how to make those kinds of modifications on their own. I want coaches to watch, observe and then be able to modify it to suit their own purposes. What is that old saying?
“Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.”
RC: How many pages is it?
Jim: Over 160.
RC: How did you decide to work together?
Jim: When you sit down to write something with someone, you should already have a clear vision of what you want. I wouldn’t have written the book with him if we didn’t know each other very well. The Angry Coach is the best writer I’ve ever seen – dude knows how to write. If you ever need anything written, get in touch with this guy. He’s worth about a hundred times what you’ll pay him.
Angry Coach: This program is no mystery to me because I’ve been implementing it for a couple of years now. However, Jim added another dimension by saying things I never thought about. As an example, there’s a part in the section about weight room equipment where Jim taught me a shitload of things I didn’t know, and wish I’d spoken to him about before we purchased equipment for our own program. I remembered that this is what he does for a living – he talks to coaches from all over the country, high school, college and pro, about what they need. We both have a football background and think similarly. We have the same background – and there was nothing we disagreed about. It was more adding and augmenting than disagreeing.
RC: You relate this book to high school football a great deal. Can football players at other levels use it as well?
Jim: It’s geared towards high school football. But, there’s no reason why you couldn’t use it with a collegiate football team. The game is still the same – the field has 100 yards and goalposts. Most coaches at the college level have their own program, but there’s no reason why a college football coach couldn’t use 5/3/1 for Football. Even if they do stick with what they know, they can still get ideas from this book. This is more for the high school coach who wants something down on paper – which will help them out greatly from a time perspective.
Angry Coach: Individual players can follow it as well. If you’re a football player and you want to know how to train, this is also designed for you, no matter what level you’re on.
Jim: That’s very true. I’m smart – but not the smartest. This book isn’t written in a foreign language. Any high school kid who can read will understand it. The language in this manual isn’t a bunch of science that people won’t understand. It’s written so you can actually take it into the weight room and follow it.
Angry Coach: I want to second the notion that players on any level can use this. I know what we said earlier about figuring things out, but I’m telling you that I wish I had this program in college, I really do.
Jim: I believe 5/3/1 for Football: the Physical Development of a Hostile Team is 1,000 times better than anything else you’ll find out there.
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Rachel is training for her first competition and lifelong dream of being on The Bachelor. She believes she'll win because she enjoys long romantic walks on the treadmill, Disney movies, expensive dinners at McDonald’s, stuffed animals won for her out of claw machines and the smell of blue heat on sweaty men.
Her talents include, but are DEFINITELY limited to dancing, running the monolift, smiling, correcting Dave’s spelling, baking with Betty Crocker, writing and avidly following her 5/3/1 religion.
Rachel trains at the Mecca of strength hoping to one day wear heels, lots of pretty sparkles and Protan.
She is known to her many adoring fans as "Bubbles." 
