This article was first published at t-muscle.com PUBLISHED 08-31-00
Squatting from Head to Toe
Introducing the Box Squat
The Box Squat
Technique is the most important factor in squatting big weights. If you’re training with bad technique then it doesn’t matter what supplemental exercises you use or how many sets or reps you perform. Your squat will only go so far and then get stuck. This article will describe the correct technique for performing the box squat. I feel the box squat is the best way to train the squat, period. The form is the same as the regular squat but with the added bonus of being able to develop explosive strength. The box squat also places all the stress directly on all the squatting muscles.
Every member of Westside Barbell performs box squats year around with the only regular “free squat” being done in competition. The technique I’ll describe has taken my squat from 760 to 935 over the past five years, but I wasn’t always a big fan of the box squat. When I squatted 760, I didn’t believe in box squatting and trained all my squats the same way many of you are doing now. I used a progressive overload method using the Western method of periodization. The result of all my hard work? My squat stayed at the 730 to 760 range for five years without any progress! I had to change. Part of this change included box squatting.
The use of the box squat made a tremendous difference in my progress and the progress of my training partners. Every one of us added 100 to 200 pounds to our max efforts after adopting the box squat. We also understood the importance of perfecting the box squat to get a big carryover in competition. We check each other’s form on a constant basis and the things we look for will be detailed in this article.
Now, you may have heard from some sissy wearing spandex that the box squat is dangerous. When someone talks about the dangers of box squatting, it’s apparent they simply don’t know how to perform the lift correctly. Sure, if you’re trying to bounce off the box or you’re using more weight than you can handle, then there are definitely dangers to the spine. When performed correctly, however, box squats are safe. And, I believe box squats are so effective that you don’t need to perform regular squats in your training at all!
Advantages of Box Squatting
There are many advantages to box squatting:
1) Training on a box will allow you to sit back onto the box to a point where your shins are past perpendicular to the floor. This places all the stress on the squatting muscles (hips, glutes, lower back and hamstrings.) When you can increase the stress on these muscles and lower the stress on the quads, then you’ll be ready to see your squat poundages start moving.
2) Restoration is another major advantage of box squatting. You can train more often on a box when compared to free squatting. According to Louie Simmons, the original members of Westside Barbell in Culver City, California, used to perform box squats three times a week. Currently at Westside we train the box squat every Friday for our dynamic workout and occasionally on Monday’s maximal effort workouts. If you’re new to box squats, I suggest you do them once per week.
3) When performing box squats you never have to guess how low you’re squatting. It’ll always be the same. Think about it: when most people start adding weight to the bar, their squats get higher and higher. You see this all the time in any gym you go to. They look good with the light weights, then begin doing quarter squats when the weight gets heavy. With box squats, you’ll always go low enough.
4) The last reason to box squat is to reinforce good squat technique. Many times for the intermediate or beginning squatter, the hamstrings aren’t yet developed and “sitting back” into a squat is impossible without falling over backward. To teach these athletes how to free squat properly would take months. The squat wouldn’t look right until the hamstrings and glute strength increases. Why wait two or three months? Put them on the box and you’ll have them squatting properly within five minutes. Within one month the hamstrings will begin to kick in because of the added stress of sitting back on the box.
The Details
Now, are you ready to box squat? Good.
Phase I: The first thing to check for is proper body position at the beginning of the lift. Keep in mind you’ll have to keep the entire body tight. If any body part is held loose it will become your weak link and you’ll break down.
Before setting up under the bar you’ll need to grasp the barbell and duck under it with your feet about shoulder width apart or slightly wider. While under the bar you’ll have to start to really tighten up. Grasp the bar with your hands and start to squeeze it as if you were trying to bend the bar across your back. Next, pull your shoulder blades together as tight as possible while pulling your elbows forward. This is to keep the upper back locked in this position during the lift. If your elbows are flaring out, it’ll cause the barbell to travel forward at some point during the lift. The key to squatting big weights is to keep the barbell path traveling in the shortest line as possible. Any deviation from this line will cause a missed lift.
Now that your upper back is tight you’ll need to tighten your midsection. First, expand your abdomen as much as possible. When you pull air into your body it should be into the diaphragm, not the chest. Expand you belly and push it out against your belt. This will stabilize and support the lower back and not elongate the spine. If you’re having a hard time trying to figure this out, then wear your weight belt one notch loose and push into it with your belly so it becomes tight.
Pushing your belly out goes against what many believe because they feel training this way will cause injuries to the lower back. After 30 years of box squatting Westside has had 23 lifters squat over 800 pounds, six over 900 pounds and one over a grand. Not one of these lifters or any of the others has had lower back problems.
Another aspect of this to keep in mind is the circumference of the waist line. If I suck my belly in my waist line measures 42 inches. If I pull air into my belly and push it out it measures 48 inches. The wider base the stronger the lifter. This is why lifters with a bigger waist squat more. The pyramids in Egypt are also built with a wide base and they have been standing for centuries. As the car commercials used to say, wider is better.
I learned this lesson firsthand at the 1990 Toledo Hall of Fame powerlifting competition. I’d just tried a 760 squat and got smashed with it. This was my second attempt of the day and I decided to give it another try on the third. I had some doubts because the second attempt wasn’t even close. Saying I got smashed is an understatement. The weight stapled me to the floor! I didn’t even get out of the bottom of the lift. This weight was a 20 pound personal record for which I had spent the last four months training.
I didn’t understand what the problem was or how to fix it. On the third attempt, while I was getting wrapped, Louie Simmons walked up to me and told me to get my abdominals tight. I had no idea what he was talking about at the time, but would within the next few minutes. As I got under the weight I realized Louie was the spotter behind me. (No pressure there, huh?) As I got set under the bar he told me to expand and push my belly into the belt. Now I understood what he was talking about. I was always told to flex my abs, but never to expand and push out.
As I set the bar up, I noticed that I had never felt so tight and stable. Once set, I locked in my back and began the squat. I kept my belly pushed into the belt and blasted the weight up! I had just smoked a weight that stapled me to the floor moments earlier all because I learned how to use my abdominals! In my opinion, this concept is one of the most misunderstood in the sport of powerlifting today. Many lifters don’t know how to use their core to set up a squat. Some do nothing at all while others are trying to suck their stomachs in. This is probably fine for those who strive to squat 400 pounds, but if you’re looking to squat maximal weights in the 700 to 900 range, you’d better learn how to use your core.
All the power of the lower body is transferred through your core to the barbell. If this core isn’t tight the power will “get lost” so to speak and never travel to the bar. While I don’t agree with the use of a belt for the majority of training, I do believe in the use of belts to teach a person how to use the abdominals while squatting. The belt is a training aid in competition, so you must learn how to use it to its fullest advantage.
Phase II: Now that you have your upper back and belly tight, you need to arch the bar out of the rack. When you take a barbell out of the rack, it should never hit the front supports. This shifts the weight to the toes and will cause you to lose your tightness (as well as set the bar in a position to use your quads instead of your hips and hamstrings.)
Arch the bar out, then push with your legs to get the bar off the racks. Keep the arch. Step back with one leg, then the other. You want to maintain your tightness and set your stance as wide as possible. I believe in using a wide stance when squatting because it’ll shorten the distance the bar will have to travel and will place the stress more on the glutes, hips, hamstrings and back. I’ve figured out over time that the quads aren’t that important for squatting maximal weights. Instead, it’s the hips, back and hamstrings. If your quads were really doing all the work, then why wouldn’t you be able to squat as much as you could leg press? So, set up in a wide stance.
From this position, pull all the air back into your belly and try to make your back and abs tighter than before. You should also be forcing your knees out to the sides. You’ll know you’re doing this right if your hips feel tight. This will place the stress on the hips as well as increase the leverage in the bottom of the squat. The closer you can keep your knee, ankle, shoulder and hip joints in a straight line, the greater the mechanical advantage. This is why you can quarter squat much more than you can full squat.
You also want to be pushing out on the sides of your shoes. Never push downward. Act as if you’re tying to spread the floor apart. This is to further activate the hips. By the way, the best shoes to wear while squatting are the old school Converse Chuck Taylors. They’re built with a flat bottom and strong canvas sides. Most other tennis shoes will cause your foot to move around too much or you’ll push out over the side of the shoes.
Your butt should also be sticking out with your back arched as hard as possible. Head position is vital to keeping the barbell in the proper path for squatting. You must drive your head into the bar. This doesn’t mean look up; you should actually be looking forward. You want to be looking forward for a couple of reasons. First, if you’re in a competition, you’ll need to see the head judge give you the squat signal. Second, you’ll want to see everyone’s reaction after you smoke your lift! I don’t know about you, but I want to see the look of awe in their eyes after I get the lift.
Besides, if you’re looking down you’ll more than likely start to fall forward about half way up and miss the lift. The act of pushing your head back into the neck should be the same action as if you were to lay on the floor and push your head against the ground. As for toe position, lighter guys should usually point their toes straight ahead. Heavier guys, often because of a lack of flexibility, may want to point their toes out slightly. Now you’re ready to begin the squat.
Phase III: To start the squat, I want your hips to begin the motion, not the knees. When your knees bend first, the load is shifted downward; you need the load going backward. Remember, you want the bar to travel in a straight line. Keep pushing the hips back as you squat down. The key is to “sit back.” Most people sit down on a toilet with better form than they squat because they have to sit back. As you sit back you want to feel tension in the hamstrings. Act like they’re springs you’re trying to compact before they rebound back. This will cause a great stretch reflex out of the bottom of the squat. An explosive start is another key to squatting maximal weights.
Keep sitting back until you sit on the box. The box should be one inch lower than parallel for most people, although I sometimes recommend that less experienced lifters find a box that puts them at one inch above parallel. (Note: I can’t recommend a pre-manufactured box at this time because I simply haven’t found any good ones. All of our boxes at Westside are homemade. When selecting a box, most people need one between 12 and 14 inches high. Also, pick one that’s big enough to fit your butt. Note that some people use a flat bench for box squats. I’ve found that these are seldom set at the proper height, however, and may be too narrow for some.)
As far as the definition of “parallel,” it’s defined as when the crease of the hip is in line with the top of the knee. Remember, most people have very poor hamstring and hip strength to squat properly in the first place. If they tried to squat without the box they’d fall over backward. The box is the best way to teach proper squat form while bringing up their weak points. The box squat also breaks the eccentric/concentric chain. This is one of the best ways to build explosive strength. The box squat also causes you to squat from a static contraction to a dynamic concentric contraction, another very effective way to build explosive strength.
When you reach the box you want to sit down and relax the hips flexors while keeping every muscle other muscle tight. You also don’t want to fall down on the box and try to bounce off of it. You sit back with the same speed you squat. Pause on the box for a split second and explode off of it. No bouncing! Your knees must still be pushed out and your abs, upper back and arms should remain tight while your back stays arched. When you’re on the box it’s important to have the shins perpendicular to the floor or better yet, past perpendicular. This places all the tension on the squatting muscles.
Phase IV: After you pause on the box you need to explode off by first driving the head and upper back into the bar, then by driving with the hips. When you begin the squat (during the eccentric phase) the hips move first then the head. The opposite of that (the concentric phase) should involve the head moving first then the glutes. It only makes sence to try to lift the bar first. If you don’t drive with the upper back first then the bar will begin to move forward. If the bar is moving forward before you drive with the hips, you’ll miss the weight and fall forward.
As you’re coming up you still need to maintain all tightness by driving your back into the bar, driving you head into the bar, pushing out on your knees and feet, pulling the elbows forward, keeping the shoulder blades together, and holding your air. After that there’s nothing else to do but lock out and wait for the crowd to cheer.
That’s all there is to it. And they say squatting isn’t a technical lift! Now it’s up to you. Do you want to be standing there watching others lift the big weights, or on the platform doing it yourself? You decide.




















Is it just me, or does there seem to be something missing from the article? Phase 1, part of phase 2.?
Fixed
I tried box squating few times,various leg spans,box heights.
My opinion is, that box squating is useless for raw parallel/ olympic-deep squat, and it’s the easiest way to smash your knees and hips.
NOBODY,who is pro powerlifter in Poland do them. Only few basket ballers.
Do you guys really need them ?
Daniel Miller
Squat 356 kg at 82,5kg body weight class -unoffical world record
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkrlzHY7r1M&NR=1
250kg squat at 60kg body weight class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtJCY-LTWLs
385kg squat at 125+ class (24 years old)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZhRyAW3ivY&feature=related
No box squat training,anti-doping tested,1 ply gear POLISH POWER!!
Hey Dave I have a couple questions, what’s the purpose of squatting onto a box with a foam pad on top? And I have been box squatting for roughly 8 weeks straight, and it helped me hit a huge PR on a free squat, but is it common to feel kind of unbalanced on the first few sets when you take the box out to do a regular back squat?
Lukasz i don’t understand why you say box squating is the easiest way to smash your knees and hips. Box squats put less stress on your knees than a free squat. Your obviously very strong, much stronger than me but I do not lift with gear and I am about 5 years younger. A lifter at westside barbell by the name of Dave Hoff did a 1035 pound (about 470 kg) squat and he is 22 years old. If you saw when this was originally published 10 years ago. The squats of the westside lifters have continue to rise since then and the box squat is a staple in their program. Maybe you should try box squating in your training. It is not going to hurt you and again I am not sure why you think it will. It could push your squat into the 900 pound range and beyond. Good luck in your training. peace.
I think if someone has a natural ability and they work to improve that ability then I think they will do great regardless. There aren’t many VERY strong people in this world, and I guess they don’t all do the same training. When I say VERY strong I mean like the kind of strength that is very very rare to see, top class world no. 1 strength. It’s good to share different ideas on what has worked and what does work, gives people more options.
Hey Dave,
Thank you so much for this article. What do you think of Oly Shoes when you box squat?
Hey Dave, thanks so much for the awsome article. Its finally starting to make sense. Maybe you could do a video like “so, you think you can bench” but call it “so, you think you can squat” to demonstrate some of the finer points that myself and others are missing by trying to picture the box squat in our heads as we read the article. You’re awsome! Keep up the good work.
Excellent.
Dave,
Some of the older powerlifters in my gym think that box squats increase the likelihood of hurting my back.
What do the Westside guys do that prevents this? I assume its the rate of descent onto the box.
I think box squatting has its place in geared competitive powerlifting, but outside of that don’t believe that there is much use in it. I practiced box squats religiously for three years, and developed a very impressive raw and geared squat off of a box but quickly realized that without the box, I was not as strong.
I became used to squatting with a box. Think about it, that’s what you’re training your body to do: squat with a box. As in all sports, you want to practice the sport/action exactly as you would in the sport and doing a box squat doesn’t carry over into a meet unless you’re wearing gobs of gear.
Additionally, no where in any athletic event, will you be “sitting back” with the weight like that and completely deloading (albeit for a second) the muscle being used.
@ Taylor. Taylor, to make the blanket statement that box squatting is not going to hurt you is incorrect. All squats, done explosively and with momentum, absolutely have the potential to hurt you. I have no proof one way or another that box squats are more dangerous than regular squats (I would say that normal squats are safer because they are training the bottom portion of the repetition, whereas the box squat ignores the bottom portion of the rep via deloading and encourage explosion) but I’ve known many people, myself included that have been injured squatting. Sadly, I think most people won’t realize the extent of their injuries or the damage done until many years later.
While I understand that an elite few have done well at Westside Barbell (all for various reasons), how many thousands of other people have failed attempting to use their same techniques? Like Vic Small implies, only a few gifted people have the potential to get really strong. Genetics determines that.
Taylor,believe me, I tried box squating many times using WSB method.
Theoretically it’s good movement, which give you:
- faster regeneration
- easier to teach, more natural move for beginners – it’s like siting to chair
- possibility to activate harmsting,butt, low back -> more muscles used in movement=bigger weight on a bar
When box squating with narrow stance can be useful*, I can’t understand wide-stance-WSBC- squating. I think my english isn’t good enough to explain what I mean,but it’s always easier to destroy some object pressuring it (force react on knees in wide stance) ,than pulling it (force react on knees in closer stance,olympic deep squat).
*I also can’t understand why box squating in WSB is main squating exercise. It’s like doing weighted dips instead of powerlifting bench pressing. With that example box squating can be done in dynamic effort day(lighter squat day)/ or like accessory movement,but why in max effort day?
Next.I don’t want to jugde powerlifting federations, but most of that squat/bench records APF will never be accepted in IPF cause squats in APF aren’t enough deep, and benches don’t have “1 sec on chest” phase.
Anyway,all I want to say is that we don’t need box squating to be strong as hell
(ex.: Daniel Miller -Squat 356 kg at 82,5kg body weight class – 1 ply gear,drug tested!).
I respect Loui Simmons and especially Dave Tate,but there are many voices that all that conjugated periodization,dynamic efford days and box squating is waste of time and the power of WSB isn’t in methods but in the Club,when you train with the best powerlifters in that federation.
Of course it’s only my honest opinion,but it’s statring that some of WSBC guys saying that.
I think there is a place for box squats outside of power lifting.
I compete in Skeleton bob at a national level at the minute but used to compete for Great Britian as a power lifter so i used them as a staple then.
I use them in meso-cylces now. 3 weeks box, 3 weeks front squat, 3 weeks partial and so on.
I have found them to develop alot if hip drive for me that i need in order to push my sled.
I do agree that you can become too reliant on them to make depth at comps as i found out the hard way at times but if you have the box set up properly (in terms of depth) then its not a huge shock to the system. Soo many people set the height way too high then suffer at comps. I do partial squats to help my drive phase in pushing my sled but even then it looks deeper then some guys i know that do “normal box squats”
So i think they are good and as a S&C coach i use them alot with my athletes. As dave said it is the easiest way of teaching someone to squat.
Tell someone to squat and there technique is all over the place, tell then to sit down slowly with the bar on there back and done!!! lol
Happy squatting
Kevin, I wasn’t trying to say box squats will not get you hurt. Like you, I have also suffered injuries while squating. I was saying box squats will not put as much stress on your knees because you are sitting on a box and not going below parallel like in a free squat. Lukasz confused me because he said it was the easiest way to smash your knees. It is true, we can all train our asses off for years, but never reach the top in this sport. genetics do determine that.
Lukasz, easy my friend. Box squatting is just another variation. I train and compete raw. And use box squats, Olympic and front squats. I find squatttin with flat shoe like Chuck Taylor hits different muscles than WL shoes.
Lukasz, I think you make some good points. I am a big fan of box squats, but there are many other things you can do in training. All exercises have a purpose and you have to find the ones that make you the strongest when to use them. You must have different variations in your training like Al said with front squats, which I think have made me stronger in some ways compared to normal box squats.
“the biggest misconception is that there is such an overreaction to everything. For example, when the Swiss Ball became popular it became the staple of many programs. It’s a great tool but shouldn’t make up the bulk of your program. Everything has its place; you just have to be smart enough to figure out where and when.” Jim Wendler
@Taylor, I couldn’t agree with your last post more. Some people grab the last thing their chosen Guru threw out there as gospel and then run around profaning anyone who questions the word of the chosen one! The followers of Chek, Poliquin and Tsatsouline spring to mind as classic examples of people who really need to chillax and stop taking everything they read or hear as the one and only way. Every accessory lift and piece of kit should be viewed as a tool of a lifters trade, making them a more versatile and rounded athlete. For example I use lifting straps to enable me to lift super maximal Deads and also for shrugs. Something that some purists might view as blasphemy But for the supra-Max deads I dont want my grip to be a limiting factor and for shrugs I dont want to waste neural drive on my grip when I am trying to fry my traps. But do I go into the shower or pop to the shops wearing my lifting straps? No! They are one tool and are used for the purpose they are designed and then put away until they are needed again, the same goes for my belt. It is used for heavy squatting and occasionally for deads and any strongman stuff that require tight abdominals for longer than 30 secs. The rest of the time it just gathers dust. It should also be noted that we are all individuals and not everyone on this planet thrives on the same things as everyone else, and then again some may get great gains from using the Box Squat in their programming. As Wendler says ‘ you just have to smart enough to know when’.
Dave,
looking forward to your comments, especially regarding the points brought up by Łukasz (injury of knee/hip, squat depth APF vs. IPF, etc).
Greetings from Japan
I think some don’t find it effective because they don’t take the time to learn how to do it properly. No one wants take a few 45’s off the bar and swallow their pride and work on fundamentals. Instead, they try too much weight, the technique suffers, and they end up with either injuries or no progress. Then they turn around and blame the box. Its helped me make great gains but it took a lot of practice, not exactly something for which us powerlifters are known.